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Re: Fresh Meadows
One more delivery guy
Do you remember...
Don't Cook Tonight, Call Chicken Delight!
I remember Mr. Small delivered the chicken.
I was a neighbor of his and his son, Jordon Small.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
Read all of these stories and wow so great. Brough back so many memories. The candy store on the now expressway was called White's Bar. Does anyone remember this? Sitting on the benches on the corner near I think a drug store across from Bloomingdales.Plymouth stores, wormwrath's, movie theatre, the library where you were suppose to be studying. Getting a hair cut with Mr.Inz that could not speak English. Playing handball at ps. 126 and walking all the way to union turnpike. Graduated F. Lewis 1963 ist class and college students shared the school as well. Oh those gym blue gym outfits. My green sweather with the big F on it in orange. one of the students uncle was the assistant principal. Howie Karvel???Now I hear there is a reunin so if you are reading this message let me know who is going.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
Read all of these stories and wow so great. Brough back so many memories. The candy store on the now expressway was called White's Bar. Does anyone remember this? Sitting on the benches on the corner near I think a drug store across from Bloomingdales.Plymouth stores, wormwrath's, movie theatre, the library where you were suppose to be studying. Getting a hair cut with Mr.Inz that could not speak English. Playing handball at ps. 126 and walking all the way to union turnpike. Graduated F. Lewis 1963 ist class and college students shared the school as well. Oh those gym blue gym outfits. My green sweather with the big F on it in orange. one of the students uncle was the assistant principal. Howie Karvel???Now I hear there is a reunin so if you are reading this message let me know who is going.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
You all have amazing memories. I went to P.S. 26, Ryan, and Francis Lewis. I remember glee club at P.S. 26. One year we accompanied the stage production of the Mikado. I loved it. We all wore Japanese (or Chinese, who knew?) costumes. I remember we could take also music lessons at school. I played the clarinet and was in the "orchestra". Loved it. I remember Mrs. Ponti - she taught us how to propagate cut-leaf philodendrens (sp?) in 5th or 6th grade. I thought that was amazing. I remember Mr. Douglas (all the kids loved him) having a major tantrum and throwing desks around the room. Vey scary. A boy named "Teddy" pushed his buttons and he blew up. All the kids were speechless. I remember the announcement of JFK's death was made while I was on the balance beam in gym at Ryan. Does anyone remember how Halloween was a huge event with kids out everywhere. Truly no fear. I guess we all felt at ease throughout the whole neighborhood. Kids everywhere. Again, the boys who threw ice balls and worms (you know who you are!) were just about the only sources of worry. Does anyone remember John Lindsay campaigning in the mayoral race between Bloomingdale's and Woolworth's? He was so tall and striking. I remember the little library next to the expressway. Remember the children's section? I spent endless hours in that library, gradually expanding beyond the borders of the children's section as I grew up. Endless hours. Remember hanging upside down on the monkey bars in the playground at P.S. 26? And climbing all the way to the top. Remember the big circular fountain that sprayed water in the summer? Remember the bus passes when we went to Ryan? A different color every month. Remember waiting for the bus in the freezing cold and snow at the corner of 69th Avenue and 188th St. I remember at our graduation at the Meadows in 1966, we sang the theme song (who made that choice?) The Impossible Dream. Does anyone remember the long fence between the parking lot in back of Bloomingdales and the 13 Story Buiding that was covered in roses ? How beautiful was that?
Re: Fresh Meadows
LIE
Before the LIE was built, there was a kids' amusement park on the side of Horace Harding near the future Francis Lewis, that was called Kiddy City.
When the LIE was finished, but before it opened, I got on my Schwinn, and rode the LIE from the 183rd st. entrance down the slope to Francis Lewis.
Then soon after it opened, Kruschev came to NY and was driven out to the Soviet compound in Nassau. We stood on the service road and watched him go by.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
Hi all .I graduated Francis Lewis in 1963. Yes there is a reunion this year june 25,2005 at the Crown Plaza Hotel Jfk.I organized this reunion with the NEw England Reunion COmpany>I am hoping we have a big crowd If anyone wants info about the reunion you can contact me at mcohen1 at dc.rr.com. My name is Marion Itskowitz Cohen. I hope all come Yes arldesign uhwe hope that you come
Re: Fresh Meadows
arldesign
My name is marion Itskoiwtz Cohen I too graduated Francis Lewis in 1963. I am the alumni contact fo the upcoming reunion June 25,2005. I do hope that you are coming and I hopoe your friends will be there too
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
I was surprised to see these postings about Fresh Meadows. I have such fond memories of growing up there. I moved to Fresh Meadows in 1978, a bit later than most of you who posted messages. I attended PS 26 then Ryan and finally Francis Lewis before moving to Florida in late 1987.
I lived on 64th Circle right on the Oak Grove. I remember many days walking through the grove to get to school. I guess my fondest memories besides Meadows theater, Bloomingdales and Bagel Nosh, were the snowy mornings when school would be cancelled and we'd take our sleds over to the golf course near Francis Lewis High School and go sledding all day. I don't remember the name of that golf course, but there was a steep slope on the course that the daring kids would go down called Suicide Hill. Going down it usually resulted in a busted sled and perhaps a few busted bones, too (lol).
I visit the old neighborhood about once every year or two and just reminisce about the good 'ol days!
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Re: Fresh Meadows
Bruce B
From: BarryRadio@Verizon.net
So Bruce.... Did Marc & Wayne live right accross from you? Did Barbara B. live next door?
Anyone: I'll be @ Brothers early November for a "slice".......... Let me know if you're in the area.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Web Site
Check out: www.FMeadows.com
Re: Fresh Meadows
fresh meadows
i live in holliswood
and there is nothing to do in fresh meadows
aside from getting my hair,which i will go for in 5 minutes
im sure it has changed a lot
Re: Fresh Meadows
FRESH MEADOWS
I tell my kids what a great place Fresh Meadows was to grow up in. Most of the recollections reenforce those feelings. The Salvatation Army man, Did he ever talk? Having the keys to PS26 field to play night softball.Attempting to climb the incinerator chimney. Pony rides across from Francis Lewis HS. Suicide Hill. The Vanderbilt Highway to nowhere.Long bike rides to Oakland lake before Queensborough or Douglaston before EJ Korvettes. Pats Emerald Bar for Monday night football. The 175 club in the bowling alley in FM or bowling downstairs on 188 and the Turnpike. Music lessons next door. The swimming pool in the Jewish center on 184 st? The BE -Ins in Cunningham Park. Sam's Bar on the Turnpike with his brother Smokey at the door.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Fresh Meadows
Hi!
I moved into Fresh Meadows in 1960 at the age of 10...I'm still here...in the same apartment!
Quite a few of my old classmates are still here as well. Fresh Meadows remains a great neighborhood.
Thanks for the memories.
Re: Fresh Meadows
And the Fresh Meadows dubious achievement award go
...still in the same neighborhood 45 years later (born here), and in the same apartment 38 years this coming August (my family moved here from Rego Park in 1953). Have told the wife that this is not going to become a multigenerational deal if I can help it, LOL.
Re: Fresh Meadows
PS179
What a strange site to find - I used to live on Peck Ave. just down from PS 179 - I went to 179 from 1961 to 1966 (it's been a long time....) Any one remember the "Never Enders"?
I think I recognize some names/stories on this list. Barbara B. - you used to live across the courtyard from me. Lynne A.- we hung out.
Any had Mrs. Wolfe at PS. 179?
Re: Fresh Meadows
Nice memories
Jim, I also graduated Francis Lewis in 74.
Were you good friends with Start E. If you are the same person, we used to hang out all the time. Remember "painted pots" for Mr Lerner 6th grade in PS 179?
Beth, I remember you also. Back in elementary school did your mom cut off the edges of the white bread of your lunch sandwiches?
Re: Fresh Meadows
Merger
Hey, Wait up, Vito!! (Bungalow Bar kicked butt on Good Humor). Pensie Pinkies (sp?) over Spaldings, and Fresh Meadows over everywhere else.
PS 26 1961-66 (?); Lieber, Venerdi, Longobardo, Reherser, Gilliard, Prince. Just started at Ryan Junior High (2 year sp) and moved to LI in 68.
Classmates for all or most of those years: Stephen Golub, Lloyd Stahl, Barry Rothman, Randy Leshay, Andrea Blau (my secret crush), Fern Goodhart, Hope Trachtenberg etc etc.
Long live Fresh Meadows!
(Looks like "Fresh Meadows, a Utopian Youth" is the other big discussion group on this subject [with some other smaller ones too]. Merger perhaps?)
Re: Fresh Meadows
More FM information
Just found this site, and you've stirred my memory. I grew up in FM and lived in various apt buildings there from 1949-1965. Sweets and Treats was originally called "The Lark". It was right next to Food Fair on 69th Ave., across from PS 26. Also in that strip mall was the original FM Library, before the building was built on Horace Harding and 194th. Also there were: Crest Chemists, the pharmacy, which had a soda fountain counter that was eventually removed; Weitzner's deli, which had great potato salad that they would sell me in a small container for a nickel; a bakery, where my mother used to send me for fresh rye bread, sliced on the spot and still warm; Stanley's Barber Shop, which later moved to the strip by Bloomies.
Plymouth Shop, next to Bloomies, was originally the FM Post Office, before it was moved to a new structure near the library and the Meadows Theater. Also on that strip was the Weiden-Schoppe, and although I remember the name well, I don't know what they sold. Fresh Meadows Inn, a "fancy" restaurant, was at the end of the strip, and across from Horn & Hardart's restaurant.
Buster Brown shoes was right next to Jasco Shoes, and B&B Lorry was next to those stores.
I went to PS26 for kindergarten, and then went to first grade at PS179 in it's first year, 1955, and graduated there in 1960. Vera Sperling was the principal when I graduated. I think she left that year. Let's see who remembers this: while in Mrs. Heisen's 3rd grade class (also had her in 2nd grade) she had to take a leave of absence (I believe she was pregnant) and half of the class was moved into Mrs. Smith's 4th grade class. The class was then called something like 3/4-206. We 3rd graders did so well in the 4th grade class that at the end of the year, they told our parents we could proceed directly to 5th grade! So we all skipped a grade.
I remember a lot of the people mentioned by Bruce. Will get back with even more names and memories. But thanks to the city for starting this site.
Re: Fresh Meadows
More F. M. information....
Hello, Mitch,
What else can you tell me about the Fresh Meadows Inn? My great-uncle, Nat(han) Seltzer, was its co-owner. He died when I was 4 or 5 and I frankly have no memory of him. I appreciate any info.
Funny you should mention Mrs. Heisen: she was my sister's third- or fourth-grade teacher and they corresponded back and forth over the years well into my sister's college days.
Best,
Matt
Re: Fresh Meadows
FM Inn and more
Hi Matt,
Unfortunately, I don't really remember much about the Inn. I was always interested in going, and pestered my parents to take me there. Lots of my friends used to go there all the time, but my father said it was "too expensive and not that good". Finally, I wore him down and we went. It was the kind of place you had to dress up to go to. It had an entrance in the front and in the back and had several rooms. It was a very cozy place and I seem to remember a fireplace, but maybe it was a false one. I had a great time as far as I can remember, but that was it. My parents never went back again, and then it was gone. I'm really sorry I don't have more to tell you. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there are others here who can tell you a lot more.
I used to love Mrs. Heisen and was crushed when she left. I don't think she came back in the time I spent in the school. I had the following teachers at PS 179:
-1st grade: Mrs. Solov
-2nd grade: Mrs. Heisen
-3rd grade (part year): Mrs. Heisen
-4th grade (part year): Mrs. Smith
-5th grade: Mrs. Kantor
-6th grade: Mr. Gross
Mr. Gross was the only 6th grade teacher that year, and his class had about 31 kids. He was a very tough cookie. He was short, and I think he had a chip on his shoulder about his height or else he just had a lot of hostility. Maybe he would've been better with older kids (I'm pretty sure he was the only male teacher in the school), but he was pretty rough on 6th grade boys. He was sort of a Jimmy Cagney type, even looking a bit like him. I remember him slamming Harold Weitzberg against the wall for cracking a joke. He used to throw chalk at students who talked in class. He treated us in a way that would've gotten him a black eye if he tried it on an adult.
Mitch
Re: Fresh Meadows
More FM Memories
More Fresh Meadows memories:
-the 2 carnivals on Horace Harding. There was one opposite PS 179, across the pedestrian overpass. The other one was near Fresh Meadows Lane, replaced by the WTFM hut. Contrary to what another poster wrote, neither was called "Kiddie City". That was the park on Northern Boulevard just east of the Cross Island Parkway.
-the Mobil station next to the Library on Horace Harding. Now replaced by an apartment building.
-the Esso station across from the Mobil Station. Demolished to build the LIE.
-gigantic dirt piles in the Oak Grove at the northeast corner. They were there for years before finally being removed. Probably left from the construction of Fresh Meadows. We used to say "meet you at the dirt piles". Then, every fall, there were huge leaf piles that provided hours of play. By the way, the Oak Grove was left over from the Fresh Meadow Country Club which was there before the housing development was built. A famous golf course. My father said that in the early days of FM, one could find dozens of golf balls in the Oak Grove.
-the annual Christmas tree at Bloomingdale's, north of the store. After the LIE was built, there was no more room for the big tree, so it was discontinued.
-the movie theater and bowling alley on Union Turnpike and 188th Street. The bowling alley was downstairs. Eventually lost business to the gigantic Utopia Lanes on Union Turnpike and Utopia Parkway (later a supermarket). Don't know what happened to the movie theater.
-Davis Deli on 188th Street at 73rd Avenue. Later named Dave's Deli.
-the Playpen store on Horace Harding, which was owned by the father of my friend Ferris Mark.
-the horsecarts that used to come through Fresh Meadows. Some sold produce. Some sharpened knives. Some just had seats and gave the kids a ride around the block.
-the after-school center at PS 26. Open all summer with pool tables and ping-pong.
-the old Long Island Motor Parkway that went through the woods alongside 199th Street, right near PS179. In 1938 the city made it a bike path, and you could ride out to Nassau County, until it was cut off by the Clearview Expressway. How many people remember the old Motor Parkway overpass right next to PS179? The south side of it connected to the Motor Parkway and there was no north side...it was lopped off to make room for the school. The overpass was removed about 1957. For those who don't know, the Parkway was built between 1906-1928 and originally went out to Lake Ronkonkoma. There are still major pieces of it in existence.
-the Fresh Meadows Little League field, when it was behind PS 179 (before Bishop Reilly school was built).
-the sandlot Little League fields that existed before PS 179 and before the upgraded FM Little League fields (this is REAL old stuff).
-special mention to Ryan teacher Nathan Scharf, a weird looking guy with one foggy eyeglass and a speech defect. One of the funniest, best teachers I ever had.
Some names (friends and acquaintences):
-Eddie Hoch
-Dave Nimkin
-Scott Hewitt
-Lenny Leighton
-Valerie Curtis
-Larry Curtis
-Ferris Mark
-Michael Rosen
-Rudy Knott
-Paul Winter
-Steve Rickles
-Rich Cowen
-Lee Billing
-Phil Shapiro
-Steve Weingarten
-Sam Cohen
-Ira Hershkowitz
-Steve Leslie
-Barbara Doyle
-Wendy Kaye
-Steve McDevitt
-Sandy Miller
-Robby Smith
-Larry Frank
-Lisa Nelson
-Bob Glickstein
-Ellis Regenbogen
-Dave Gilson
-Matt Weinstein
-Mike Lembeck
-Mike Stone
-Joel Raphael
-Harold Weitzberg
-Jerri Goldstein
-Richie Wall
-Gary Klaw
More to come as the memories come.
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More Fresh Meadows Names
Some more names from my past:
-David Koret
-Jim Hoberman
-David Skolnick
-Theresa Valencia
-Paul Karchower
-Larry White
-Rich Eisner
-Sharon Garstein
-Marty Greenberg
-Jeff Skier
-Peter Hughes
-Steve Tannen
-Joan Holland
-Janet Keuper
-Richard Gibbs
-Debbie Grant
More to come...
Re: Fresh Meadows
more on old speedway
Greetings
I lived on 199st across from the old motorway from 1952 till 1977 when I left for the far away land of Los Angeles.
The motorway itself was not made into a true bike path. It appears that the city kept the original road surface. I have always wondered about the history of the road. We had heard that it was a private road built by a Vanderbilt.
I had always wanted to follow the road out into Long Island, but somehow never had the chance. Will write more about my time in Fresh Meadows.
In case anyone is wondering, Steve and sister Karen say hello.
Re: Fresh Meadows
mitch4949
Mitch,
We must or should have known eachother. You mention too many of the people that I knew.
Mike Stone - cinematographer in LA
Steve McDevitt - truckdriver in Salt Lake, also married my high school girlfriend (way after we broke up)
Paul Winter
Ferris Mark - I thought the Playpen was owned by the Greensteins who lived opposite me on Peck Ave.
Steve Rickles
Steve Tannen
Gary Klaw
a couple of these guys were from the "next block" and I wasn't that friendly with them more of acquaintances.
Winter and McDevitt lived on my block the first block off the expressway on Peck immediately opposite the overpass.
You must have lived a little further from the expressway than me.
e-mail me bdbarth@comcast.net
Bruce.
ps : you are right, Kiddie City was on Northern Blvd just east of the Cross Island on the north side of Northern and was next to a driving range at one point.
Re: Fresh Meadows
Motor Parkway etc
Cirkman, the Long Island Motor Parkway was reopened in Queens county in 1938 as a bike path. It was mostly intact, but through the years became blocked off in various places, like when the Clearview Expressway blocked access between the rest of the road and Fresh Meadows. Nassau county reclaimed most of the right of way and used it as a path for LILCO power lines. The rest melted into people's backyards and occasionally became local roads (like Salisbury Park Drive in East Meadow). In Suffolk, the county turned the whole thing into public roads, now called the "Vanderbilt Motor Parkway". Anyone interested in more information should start with the page of Kevin Walsh's huge site "Forgotten New York":
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/motorparkway/motor.html
Follow the links at the bottom of that page to Sam Berliner's site. It's the official site of the Long Island Motor Parkway Panel, of which Kevin and I are members. There is a lot of info on this slightly rambling site. One example that Fresh Meadows fans will like is a 1955 photo that my father took of the sandlot ballfields and the Motor Parkway overpass right next to the (under construction) PS179 with Peck Avenue in the background. See the first picture on the link below and then look lower down at the Fresh Meadows aerial photo:
http://home.att.net/~berliner-ultrasonics/limp-qn2.html
Bruce, I'm Mitch Kaften. I knew you in Fresh Meadows. I was a grade ahead of you. Paul Winter, Steve Rickles and I were very close friends and we still are. Paul moved back to FM a while back, with his wife and kids. Steve went to Boston and then Denver, where he still lives. Are you still in touch with Mike Stone? My family was very close to Joanne's. Mention Pearl and Nelson Broms to her (my mother and stepfather). We lived mostly on 64th Circle (the Oak Grove) but moved around a bit.
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