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#1 2013-11-04 12:55:44

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Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Someone was asking about both of the places that were really popular in the 60's..  I remember Trudy's had booths and some of the girls would do their dancing on the back of them as well  as dancing in cages...  We did use to have a great time there.  I had a friend named Rocky who used to be a bartender at the Red Garter, I never went to the one in NY, but I did go to the one in San Francisco..  Peanut shells all over the floor, bartenders with red and white striped shirts, with, of course, red garter armbands on their shirt sleeves..  I eventually met the owner of both, who said he and his brother also owned another in Canada..  Great places!!  I do also remember The Peppermint Lounge!!!  Does anyone remember Johnny's Steakhouse in Queens??  Also  the Midwood Bar and Grill on Nostrand Avenue in Brooklyn???

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#2 2013-11-04 13:19:19

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Peppermint Lounge....Joey Dee and the Starlighters...W.46th st. NYC...went there many times.  Also went to trudehellers, and the Red Garter at the 64 Worlds fair.  Great Place.

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#3 2013-11-04 16:01:32

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Remember Your Father's Mustache Club, in the West Village S/W Corner W. 10th and 7th Ave. South,behind the Women's House of Detention Late 1960's kind for a Tourist spot.

Truddy Hellers was great-watch those stairs leaving drunk!


Present day made up of mostly NYU Students from East to West Village.

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#4 2013-11-04 16:21:08

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Back then I made the rounds with some of my friends who knew those areas better than I did. My friend Bob Finnigan was a regular at the Village and I would hop a ride with him to see the sights.

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#5 2013-11-04 16:34:39

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

One of the things I remember about  The Village was that you could be sitting in a coffee house or a club just nursing a coffee or beer when someone would stand up and started reciting poetry or just start playing a guitar and singing an offbeat song. Sometimes people would clap or not depending on the talent.
Very interesting place "The Village".

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#6 2013-11-04 18:33:29

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Still is a very interesting place, one of my favorite places to walk around in when in Manhattan. Although quite different atmosphere than in the 60's.

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#7 2013-11-05 09:04:42

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

I remember going to a coffee house after dancing and making the rounds, Brian Highland was entertaining, after his performance and on his break, I was leaving and I dropped something out of my purse, don't remember what, but he politely picked it up, handed it to me and said "Here, you dropped this", I didn't realize I had dropped it.  Remember him, he was "The Itsy Bitsy Bikini" guy!!!!  Used to be entertainers like him in the Coffee Houses all the time...  Ah "the good ole days!!!!!  Does anyone remember Jilly's???

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#8 2013-11-05 12:23:25

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Jillys....104 W 13th St off 6th ave.  I virtualy grew up in this bar when it was Luigis, and then frequented it when it became Jillys...The owner (Jilly) used to own CBGB in the east Village...his daughter Kristal worked for me in the supermarket around the corner.
As far as the "old" village....my family bought a restaurant on 6th ave and 13th st in 1957, when I was 14.  I worked there in the summer and after school.  I was the ONLY 16 year old bartender in NYC, and never got into trouble. On my breaks and after work, I used to frequent the coffe houses and the clubs.  In a place called Folk City USA, I saw "NEW" groups like Peter Paul and Mary, Simon & Garfunkel. Bob Dylan,... Not bad for a kid.
I later on moved into the village at 101 west 12th street.

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#9 2013-11-05 14:35:05

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The Village was,and still is my favorite hang out in the whole world. Love the atmosphere down there. Heard Joan Bayez down there in the 60's. I believe it was in the Village Gate. Macdougle Street was a real busy street back then. The oldest coffee shop in the Village is on that street.Of course I forgot the name of it. LOL

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#10 2013-11-05 14:46:46

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Cafe Reggio.

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#11 2013-11-05 15:01:22

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Charlie.. I have visited cafĂ© reggio  Many many times...They still have the same tables and chairs they started out with and the big paintings on the wall are getting blacker and blacker.  The Fat B lack Pusscat was down the street.  I remember when Tony Pastors strip club was on west 4th off 6th.

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#12 2013-11-05 17:12:41

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

I was thrown out of Tony Pastors for being a bad boy.
I was in Tony Pastors one night on a double date after doing some serious bar hopping and feeling no pain. My date and I along with my friend and his date were sitting close to the stage where one the strippers took her bath in the big bowl of champagne. After she finished her bath the young lady held out a big powder puff and asked me if I were to help powder her back. Just then the French in me came out and I started powdering other things. Up popped the bouncers and out the door I went.
Last time I ever went to Tony Pastors.

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#13 2013-11-05 17:59:57

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Wow jimbo, Tony Pastors, how I envy you, and to be thrown out, what a fete????  I would have loved to see some of the shows he put on, all I've ever seen is movies about him.... I also envy all of you still living in NY...  I worked at Idlewild from the early 60's, left in 1969, have visited often, and walked the streets of Manhatten, enjoying every minute...

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#14 2013-11-05 18:26:40

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ahhhhh monsieur....quell dommage

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#15 2013-11-05 18:39:17

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Andromodid, Tony Pastors was one of the few well known clubs in NY that had strippers in the 50's and early 60's. Technically stripping in NY was against the law. New Jerseys Union City was the place to go if you were interested in ladies that disrobed. Minsky's Burlesque was a place I remember being on occasion.

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#16 2013-11-05 20:42:24

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Sorry, my mind was not in tune with that jimbo, I was thinking of the old time vaudeville shows by Tony Pastor, and wondering how you could possibly be that old!!!! LOL

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#17 2013-11-05 21:46:20

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Ed d, How fortunate you were to see all those groups, especially Simon and Garfunkel, "Bridge Over Troubled Waters"  was and has been a favorite of mine, among others on their albums..

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#18 2013-11-05 21:54:52

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Ed d, I forgot,,,, Who was the piano player who used to play at Jilly's???

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#19 2013-11-05 22:37:38

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

It was Monte somebody. I never went to Jilly's, but I was at a Quincy Jones show a few years back & he introduced the piano player as the player from Jilly's. I saw Baez & Dylan & Carol King @ Folk City, saw Cosby @ the Bitter End. It was really exciting. All of these people were just starting out. I remember thinking that Dylan was never gonna make it as a singer 'cause he mumbled so much.

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#20 2013-11-05 22:47:31

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

not sure who it was at Jillys, but in the 20 years that it was Luigis, the piano man was Benny Martini......When Benny needed to be off they called in a fill in guy named....are you ready for this?   his name was Barry Manilow

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#21 2013-11-05 23:15:48

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Your right Ed, It was a shame.

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#22 2013-11-06 10:52:06

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Recall Minsky's being one of the first W. Village locations to visit as a NYC Teen (18 Yrs. Old).  Tourist and Bachelor Parties. A lot calmer than the Times Sq. Scene.

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#23 2013-11-07 13:13:44

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

Back to Jilly's, and the piano player, it finally came to my mind, a pianist and singer named Bobby Cole, can someone verify if that is correct, I was only there a couple of times, but I do believe that one time I was there he was playing and singing????

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#24 2014-02-28 17:15:42

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Re: Trudy Hellers and The Red Garter in The Village

I don't see any comments from Michael!!!!!
Received a message saying Michael had posted a comment???

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