When all is said and done I believe you will find a mentally deranged individual similar to the type of person who tried to kill Congress Woman Gabrelle Giffords in Tucson Az.. It was a bloodbath that took place.

Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy has been trying for 15yrs, since her husband was killed & her son wounded in the LIRR shooting. Every time she has managed to get a bill to the point of a vote, the opposition gets it attached to a bill that nobody wants, & it loses.  The NRA has an unbeatable lobby.

Charlie and You would  probably ended up going on trial for violating his rights or some stuped charge like that ...

For the last 42 Years one of my past times has been Sporting Clays(a form of clay pigeon shooting). Never had a problem at any of the ranges. I have a State firearms permit,screened everytime I purchase a shotgun(which includes a MV check).
Just like cars don't kill people,crazy people do. I hope Dr. Steve by passes this post!

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Sal,Charlie & Jimbo: Just for the record, I'm in full agreement with all of you on this subject. The mentally unbalanced, criminals and just irresponsible people are the ones to be afraid of and generally not people licensed to carry firearms. Can a legitimate individual who lawfully obtains a firearm "become crazy" and loose it? The answer is YES! By the way, my understanding is that the man in Colorado had legally obtained his firearms via permits. DrSteve

Dr. Steve,
        That is a good point,however,unarming everyone will still not stop these nut jobs from obtaining guns illigally. Think of the real poor people in different parts of this country, that live way out in the boon docks that rely on their guns to obtain food,and the real elderly people that live alone in bad neighborhoods. By disarming them would be big hardship to them,to say the least. The bad guys would love nothing better than to hav an unarmed public. I can't immagine waking up at two in the morning,and hearing someone in my kitchen and NOT having a gun in my night stand. I'd be totally at their mercy. I guess everyone has their own opinions about this subject,and I do not critisize those who think differently than I do, Another point to remember,is that there are alot of countries that have banned firearms from the law abiding public,yet these acts of mass murder (via firearms) still seem to occur in those countries.

leave it to the politicians to politicize whatever they can to get more votes.  Cars kill more people than guns do, so lets outlaw cars.  Then we can take razors away from everyone so we will all have beards.  Dont forget sneakers and cigarette lighters which are very dangerous in an airplane, lets outlaw those as well. People are also hurt or killed playing football and basketball, so we can do away with that, and then we can all wait for the government to let us know what we should do next..  Nutjobs are Nutjobs, armed or umarmed.  Cocaine, Heroin, Smack, Lsd, Meth are all illegal and have been outlawed...any problem with the addicts getting drugs?? .Obama needs to go to Colorado and extend his condolences and keep his mouth shut about gun control.... PS....I dont own a gun

It looks like the shooter James Holmes totally lost his mind and became a comic book character. He thought he was the Joker from the Batman series. What rational can be used to deal with people who would kill the innocent without logic. Jared Lochner the Tucson shooter who tried to kill Congresswoman, Gabrielle Giffords acted in the same manner, off the wall.
I'm sure Dr. Steve would agree, some people suffering from mental illness could be time bombs yet unless they do something horrible nothing can be done.

He James Holmes applied to the University of Arizona in Tucson but was not accepted, went to a University in Colorado instead.

Jimbo: I do indeed agree with you. We have had this discussion many times in the past concerning violent acts that have been perpetrated upon innocent people. Some have involved guns and some just horrific acts against the public. There are many individuals who are mentally disturbed and may very well be time bombs; however if they have not committed a crime there isn't much that anyone can do. Our societal laws are not "proactive" but are merely "reactive" in scope. By the way, the shooter in Colorado may very well be able to stand trial in terms of his mental competency despite being mentally disturbed. As the facts unfold he appears to be a very calculating person who premeditatingly planned this attack. He certainly appears to be a very diabolical killer who nonetheless has mental problems which involve anger issues. Sadly these type of acts will repeat themselves because an open society cannot protect itself from deranged people who do not openly display behaviors that are cause for alarm. I will however go on the record as stating that better gun control laws limiting "assault weapons" such as Ak-47's and the like from being purchased by the general public is in order. One does not need a machine gun, grenades or rocket launchers to go rabbit hunting! DrSteve

A law should be passed that  assault weapons can not be sold.  Assault weapons are for military use only

I still cant' help it but the more hear the news reports mention all the equipment Holmes had the more I wonder how an unemployed student buys at least 15,000 worth of guns, bombs, ammo and body armor?
My wife heard that some Items he had were sent to the university. Could he have had a account there?

jimbo--Holmes probably used student loan money