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#51 2006-08-17 07:46:01

_davidvanpelt
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Mau Maus

Hi Baby Horsemen,

The Mau Maus were indeed a very tough crew.  They were from Ft.Greene and were allied with the Chaplains, not against them. 

Perhaps you were thinking of the Bishops.  The Mau Maus were bitter enemies with them.

There were also the Marcy Chaplains and they were also brother clubs with the Mau Maus

 

#52 2006-08-18 09:19:21

_rraniere
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

sutter Lords

Yes I heard of them. In fact was one of the members.

 

#53 2006-08-18 09:23:18

_ron.raniere@yoh.com
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

sutter Lords

Forgot to leave email add.

 

#54 2006-08-19 23:01:57

_gypsy/railroadboys
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Railroad Boy's colors

<a href="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=railroadboysno3.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6899/railroadboysno3.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

Does anyone remember this emblem?

Moonbeam, I grew up on Fulton, between Rockaway and Stone Ave. 1947.  I remember the Chaplins,going to Franklin K Lane, High School in the 1960's.  There was many of them. I remember a guy named Elmor Cunningham, Robert Taylor, Red from Covert St. and Broadway.  We used to hangout in Jr High School 73, on Rockaway and Sumpter St. Do you remember the Sugar Bowl candy store? where all the white boys used to hangout at. Things were different in those days. We would fight all night and then go to school with eachother the next day and play football. Hit me back, I'll talk to you soon

 

#55 2006-08-20 13:58:32

_benbwhiteatgmail.com
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Interviews wanted

Hello all,
I'm a writer living in Brooklyn (Windsor Terrace), and I'm writing a magazine article about NYC gangs before the 1980s. I just stumbled on this discussion, and it's really fascinating -- exactly what I'm looking for. Would any of you be interested in sitting down for an interview with me, if you still live in the area? e-mail interviews are possible,too, but not nearly as good. I would have to do the interview by Thursday, 8/24, so this would have to happen in the next couple of days.
If you're interested, or know anyone who might be, please post here and/or contact me at benbwhiteATgmail.com or (347) 451-1247.
Thank you very much,
Ben White

 

#56 2006-08-22 08:47:29

_rdh
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Our Lady Of Good Counsel

I was born and raised between Jefferson and Greene and Ralph and Reid. I heard of all the gangs mentioned but never joined any, I had one or two buddies Tony Armstead and Ronnie Altman Any body hear of theses guys. I have a friend who speaks of gangs from Brooklyn around 15th Av & 60 th St. Any info on them. U think one was called the Monarcks.

 

#57 2006-08-23 10:52:13

_rurock
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

the bleeker boys

how about the famouse bleeker boys from ps 81 on bleeker and cypress ave.they are now a great a bunch of guys living great lives.its to bad these days we don"t have more of these gangs than these idiot gangs of today.the gangs we had in our neighrborhood those days protected our neighborhoods not destroy them.

 

#58 2006-08-30 15:07:03

_tootzuni@aol.com
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Halsey Bops / Ellery Bops

My name is Bob Conti. Born in 1947, raised on
Jefferson Street (between Knickerbocker and
Irving ave) in Brooklyn. The gang we on my block
mostly identified with were the Ellery Bops.
Someone mentioned in an earlier post that their
dad named and started Halsey Bops in 68 or
therabouts. The truth is, Halsey bops were in "full
swing" in the late 50's or for sure by 1961. I know
because we hung with a few of the guys every
night. We sang doo wop on the street corners and
Jefferson st. train station. Made out with our girl
friends in the hallways and basements, went with
our crab traps to Canarsie pier.. good times!

 

#59 2006-08-30 15:40:13

_tootzuni@aol.com
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

robbie dupree

Hi Robbie, You recorded a great album some
time back. I tremember "Brooklyn Girls."
I think you are a great songwriter and singer! I
was in a group called "The Brooklyn Dreams" for
a while. You probably know the guys "Joe
Esposito, Bruce Sudano, Eddie Hokenson.. I sing
and play percussion, currently with Jose
Feliciano. What are you doing these days? You
are a great talent.

Bob Conti
cell 818 581 6049

 

#60 2006-08-30 22:52:42

_donnie
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Halsey Bops

  Bob Conti is of course correct when he notes that the Halsey Bops were in full swing during the 50's into the 60's. Charlie the person who speaks of his Dad as one of the original leaders and one who coined the name "Halsey Bops" also notes the origination was in the 50's. Bob must have read it wrong. Now - we all agree.

 

#61 2006-08-31 19:24:26

_mambo
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Fulton and Rockaway

Does anyone remember the Sportsman's Cafe on Fulton and Rockaway - under the El?  Also, I remember a guy called "Sinner" who was a Halsey Bop or Tot.

 

#62 2006-09-20 16:38:14

_tonyp
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Halsey Bops

Having been a member from 1958-1962, a lot of the names i recognize. Thus far it looks like my pal george f has the best recollection of facts. We were the Jr's during that period. george f, donnie f, ed & john h, lenny a, joe b, joe g, tony p, richie & ronnie z, fritz, foxy, big al, banyaz, richie l, and many more that i'll eventually remember. The tots were rabbitt, gorilla, magoo, fontanna,and quite a few more. The sr's were larry f, bobby w, gino l, whitey kenny , larry m, and others.
Fact; john G was a member of R&F at that time when our paths crossed.

 

#63 2006-10-03 14:12:05

_brian
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

MEMORIES

HI.
IM A LIMEY WHO LIVED IN MANHATTAN 1959/60 I USED TO GO BROOKLYN A LOT I WAS 21 AT THE TIME.
WHAT I KEEP TRYING TO FIND OUT DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE AREA NICKNAMED 'THE JUNGLE'ON OR NEAR FULTON ST DOWN TOWN.
THERE WERE QUITE A FEW ITTALIAN BARS THERE AND IT SEEMED SO I WAS TOLD THAT SOME WERE ON THE FRINGE OF THE 'MAFIA'.
I LIVE BACK IN ENGLAND NOW BUT THOSE ARE MY FAVOURITE MEMORIES.
SOMEONE HELP ME.
THANKS.
BRIAN.
BLLNGHMGEORDIE1@AOL.COM

 

#64 2006-10-16 19:37:44

_tonyp
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Halsey Bops

Tony - Magoo - Gorillia- Monkey - Philly B . Billy Cross - Gorillia was the war council for the Halsey Tots. This is Quinny had to leave in 59.

 

#65 2006-10-23 16:55:26

_vincentboccanfuso
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

st martin of tours

went to saint martin's between 1966 to 1974

does anyone relate to this time?

lived at 726 knickerbocker ave.

my dad, Vincent sr. owned a fruit store nearby on knicker.

it was burnt down around that time and he went on to sell fish

he died 1999.

can email me at fivemilerun@aol

 

#66 2006-10-25 18:02:16

_allen
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

pics of the Halsey bops

Charlie,

Do you have these pictures downloaded to your computer. I would love to see them.

 

#67 2006-11-14 18:31:39

_dylan
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Highland Park

Hello,
My father was a prominent member of Highland Park.I suppose i just wanted to see if anyone remembered the name. His name was Richard Smith but he more than likely went by Rick or another shortened version of the name. my E-mail is jungleak47@aol.com. I'd love to hear any stories or just know that someone remembers who he was.

Dylan

 

#68 2007-01-14 01:19:57

_geraldstudier
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

gangs

I GUESS THIS BLOG SITE IS CENSORED SINCE
I MADE A SERIOUS CRITICISM RE: GUYS WHO
WERE IN THE GANGS, halsey bops, etc., who
still bragged that their gang was the best,
the roughest, the most courageous, and the
most protective with respect to keeping the
roving gangs away from a particular block
etc.
At the time, when I lived there, the kind
of guys who joined gangs were mostly in
the double digit IQ CATEGORY,or, were in fear
of being attacked by a rival gang and they
needed that protection.
Now, all these years later, I have found
you and want to say if you take and took
delight at being a member of a marauding
gang, you should rethink this attitude
because it was dumb then and is dumb now.
None of my friends on Eldert Street belonged
to gangs but they were not fainting violets
either. there was even a distant relationship
to the Mafia on the part of one or two
members and this word was generally out.
therefore, we were never attacked.
When i left the block in 1965 and went
overseas, i found an entire world, generally
speaking, without gangs. That was a wonderful
find.
I would prefer to hear that BBs were in gangs
but, now mature, looked back at that period
and rejected their past actions. As for
bragging rights as to what gangs they
belonged to, in spite of the fact that
we are a free country, (try not to pay your
taxes), to see nostagia re: gangs, gang
fights, power, brawls, turf protection,
if you don't reject that stuff, you have
not changed.   gerry studier

 

#69 2007-01-17 11:13:14

_phillhalsey
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

sportsmans cafe

Mambo my grandad William "Rico" Halsey had a crew
called the Sportsmans club. My dad grew up in kingsboro
with the Corsair lords. He (Rico) was a rough dude and
worked in a Resturaunt in Coney Island back in day when
the colorline was real. Some "the family" came to funeral
in 67' and offered my dad and uncle assistance for the
"work" their father had done. It was told to me( 40yrs
later) on a construction site by a "brickie" ( a stonemason )
John Gotti was a Sportsman, Iam not claiming no rep but
back in the day the streets had a special code and it
wasn't easy to be in the scene. Better yet you might as
well had been a little crazy- thats what I heard. Rico also
came from Harlem and collected funds on the docks after
ww2 with his brother. One of his good friends was Adolf
Ceaser the actor. That was the life of a Sportsman.

 

#70 2007-01-17 11:14:55

_phillhalsey
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

sportsmans cafe

Mambo my grandad William "Rico" Halsey had a crew
called the Sportsmans club. My dad grew up in kingsboro
with the Corsair lords. He (Rico) was a rough dude and
worked in a Resturaunt in Coney Island back in day when
the colorline was real. Some "the family" came to funeral
in 67' and offered my dad and uncle assistance for the
"work" their father had done. It was told to me( 40yrs
later) on a construction site by a "brickie" ( a stonemason )
John Gotti was a Sportsman, Iam not claiming no rep but
back in the day the streets had a special code and it
wasn't easy to be in the scene. Better yet you might as
well had been a little crazy- thats what I heard. Rico also
came from Harlem and collected funds on the docks after
ww2 with his brother. One of his good friends was Adolf
Ceaser the actor. That was the life of a Sportsman.

 

#71 2007-03-15 23:35:50

_vicc
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

to Gerald

Gerald you are an idiot. Kids belonged to gangs because it was the thing to do and be accepted.  It was part of the times. A gang was really a fraternal organization. Not everyone was a thug. A lot of us grew up to be productive adults with careers and raised families.

 

#72 2007-03-27 20:24:19

_cheryl
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Halsey Bops

I remember the "Halsey Bops"!!!  I lived on Eldert Street from 1950 till the Summer of 1964. I remember as a child, watching them and other rival gangs fight in front of the schoolyard across the street from my house!  They would beat each other with pipes and baseball bats, and they would actually be bloody!  But growing up a "city kid", I learned early on that when we saw something like that brewing, I was supposed to go up on the "stoop" and stick close to home . . . not go near them!  Someone would yell "rumble!", and it was ON!  I also remember going to Halsey Street Park, where they had a wading pool with sprinklers, which was a BIG treat for a city kid in the hot Summer! 

 

#73 2007-04-03 16:24:41

_tonyp
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Gerald

Having been a member of HB's from 1958-1962, I question some of the half ass remarks that were made. During those times that was a way of life. Jesse James was a thief and a Murderer and today he is idolized. G Bush got us into a situation that doesn't appear he can get us out of, yet there are people that still belive him.I recently reestablished contact with a few of my comrades from that era. You would not believe what they have become. One is a retired College Professer, One is a VP at a NJ College, One is a senior VP at a car rental agency, One is a Real Estate Broker and one is sitting on a $10 Million real Estate profolio, in "the old neighborhood".
Not bad for the thugs you talk about. I wouldn't give up those times or those friends for anything.

 

#74 2007-04-04 12:13:42

_chuck
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Ellery

From '58 to '61 I ran with Ellery. Not the big guys from down on Ellery Street or even the guys from Knickerbocker Park. I was too young at the time. We were part of Ellery but we were too young to be Ellery Bops. We stayed in Grove Street Park and on Central Ave & Menahan St. We fought with Halsy in the winter time and in summer we teamed up to fight the Saints. We constantly fought with The Stompers and The Flaming Saints. That was a time when the worst weapons had were chains and pipes. There was rumor that El Quinto, (arch enemy of the Ellery Bops) had a gun but we never saw one. Nobody ever died and the worst wound I ever saw was a knife wound.

It was a fun time and I loved it. Today I'm a CPA and a grandpa. Not so bad for a gang member.

 

#75 2007-05-02 20:04:25

_doublezz
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Re: Street Gangs - late 50's

Saints of  O Z

Does any body remember the DeSena brothers from the oz saints?

 

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